Oct. 29, 2025
How Do You Know When to Quit Music?
In this episode of the Music Business Newsletter with Matthew Rix, I received an email from a 26 year old artist from Indianapolis who’s feeling stuck and burned out.
Trey’s been grinding for years, posting freestyles, dropping songs, paying for promotion, and recording in his basement studio, but he feels like nothing’s changing. He’s starting to wonder if he’s just wasting his time chasing a dream that might never happen.
It’s raw, it’s honest, and it’s something almost every artist has felt at one point.
In this episode, I break down:
How to tell the difference between being stuck and being on the verge of a breakthrough
Why consistency alone isn’t enough and what’s missing from most artists’ grind
What you can do when motivation fades and results don’t show up
How to keep your passion alive while being honest about your future
If you’ve ever felt discouraged, unseen, or ready to give up on music this one’s for you.
Got a question about the music industry you want me to answer?
Send me an email at MatthewRix.com.
The more details you share, the better advice I can give and your story might just help someone else, too.
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Hey, this is Matthew Ricks and today on the Music
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Business newsletter. It's a good one. It's from an artist
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out in Indianapolis who just kind of feels like he's
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tried everything and nothing is really sticking. So we're gonna
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dive into the email and hopefully be able to help him.
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And I think that everybody in this journey in the
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music industry probably has felt like him, fought like him,
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probably maybe even done some of the things he has done,
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hoping that that was gonna fast track you, and it doesn't.
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So we're gonna we're gonna dive into that email. But
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before we do, if you have a question or a
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comment on the music industry and you would like me
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to answer it, all you got to do is go
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to Matthewicks dot com, click submit your question, give an
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give me as many details as possible, and we'll answer
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it here on the channel. I don't need you to
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join a Patreon or subscribe or become a member, or
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buy a book or join my book club. Just go
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to Matthew Ricks dot com and click submit question. And
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is that easy. So let's dive into today's email. This
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is a long one, so just be prepared but we
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want to thoroughly be able to help him, and I
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do believe that you will be able to find some
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of yourself in this email as well. My mom also
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told me to stop slouching in chairs, So I'm going
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to be the good, god fearing boy that she created
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and not slouch anymore. Don't look like a hooligan, is
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what she said. So anyways, here's the email. It says, so,
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I've been watching your videos for like a week now,
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and man, I gotta say, you really be talking about
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the stuff nobody else wants to talk about. I don't
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really know if what I'm saying nobody wants to talk about.
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But also I don't have an agenda. And just like
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when I started The Magic's Men in twenty fourteen, my
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agenda was never to get into like being your life
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coach or having you pay for a membership. It was
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always just helping you the art artists. And there was
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actually a point, I think in twenty fifteen we were
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approached by a record label that wanted the matrics Minute,
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but they one of the things they wanted to do
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was make it more of like a Goose chase, you know,
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kind of just leave Easter eggs laying around, so you
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always had to keep coming in because they're like, you
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help these people, you solve the problem, and then they vanish,
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and we want to consolidate that and just keep growing
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the audience. So you kind of have to do more
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of just kind of dangling stuff to keep them tuned in.
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And I was like, I'm not doing that that that's
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a waste of their time in my time. So I
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don't really feel like I'm talking about stuff that nobody
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else wants to talk about. I just don't have an agenda. No,
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there are other people out there who lay it all
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on the table for you as well. Bob lef Sets
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is one of them. That Goat's been writing music business
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newsletters for twenty some odd years and there's nothing you know.
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He doesn't charge you for anything, but I do appreciate
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the sentiment, and I hope that you can find other
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people online who aren't trying to sell you anything, but
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they do just want to help all of you guys,
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Because one day I want you to win a Grammy
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and I want you to thank me. That goes for
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all of y'all, Okay, or invite me as your date
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to the Grammys. But anyways, the email continues, I don't
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even usually write people like this, but I'm kind of
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stuck and don't know what to do next. Well, I
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guess you came to the right place. I will do
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my best to help you out here, The email continues.
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I am a rapper from Indianapolis, Indiana. Been doing music
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since high school. I'm twenty six now, and I feel
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like I'm better than ever. Well, that's good. You're constantly growing,
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you're constantly evolving. You don't want to peek in music
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eight years ago? How many artists? How many artists do
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you know that their best album was twenty years ago,
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and no matter how hard they tried, they just cannot
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get any better. So that's good that you feel like
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you're getting better, he says. I feel like I'm better
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than ever, but nothing's really happening. I got a small
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fan base, like two thousand people on Instagram. That's not
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really a fan base. Followers is not a fan base.
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I have I think, like fifty seven hundred people on Instagram,
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and it varies from post to post if they're going
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to engage in it, it varies if the algorithm's even
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gonna kick it to them. Because it's based on why
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they followed me. I've had Instagram now, I think for
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about eleven years, twelve years, and so I have people
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who followed me because they came to the live events
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in twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen and twenty seventeen. I
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have people who followed me because they like my Goldendoodle.
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I have people who follow me because I'm a softball dad,
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people who follow me because I'm a follower of christ
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I have people who follow me about the music industry.
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So if I post an interview clip with you know,
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the great punk band Grade two, well the algorithm's probably
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not going to serve to the Golden Doodle people or
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the Softball people, or the Christian people, or they do
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and they just don't care and they just move on.
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So I don't really think you have a fan base
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at two thousand people. I think you have two thousand followers,
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which isn't bad. But the email continues, but half of
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them don't even like or comment on my stuff anymore. Well,
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the one thing I would ask you with that is
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how long have you had your account? Have you had
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it for when you started music at eighteen, so eight
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years ago? Because eight years in social media is a lifetime.
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I mean, I ran I have that problem. I got
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people who, you know, they gave up on their account,
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they got locked out of their account, their account got hacked,
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they are no longer on this earth. They you know,
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got married and created a new account, or they just
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don't care anymore and they just won't bring themselves too
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unfollow So that's pretty typical. Now with two thousand followers,
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you're saying half don't engage, so that means the other
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half does. So you're getting a thousand likes and comments
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and engagement. I mean, that's if that is the case,
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that's that's pretty good. D email continues. I drop songs
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every few months, and I promote it like crazy for
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a week and then it dies off. So are you
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promoting like crazy for a week You're just like twenty
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posts a day about your new song, and then after
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a week you get bored and you stop promoting? Or
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after a week does everybody just check out because are
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you are you doing something different or is it just
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constantly the same thing over and over again and people
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are just kind of tuning you out. It's just white
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noise now. But promote it like it's crazy for a
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week and then it dies out, dies off. I mean
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that could be numerous things. It could be the way
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you're promoting it, could be it's not a good song.
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I don't know how you're promoting it. We I think
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you get into that here in a bit. I would
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love to know what your Spotify plays are as well.
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You don't mention that, but let's continue. In the email,
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he says, the problem is I feel like I'm doing
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everything they say you're supposed to do. Who's everybody I post?
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He says, I post clips, I do freestyles, I tag
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other artists, I use hashtags, I go live sometimes. I
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even tried pain one of those promo pages one hundred
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dollars to post my song, and I got like twelve
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followers from it. All right, let's break this down here,
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he says, you're I'm supposed to do. I'm doing everything
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they say you're supposed to do. Once again, who are they?
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I post clips of my music? But okay, so let's
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take that one right here. You post clips of your music?
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Is that because like, what's the clip of? Is it
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you and your kitchen? But that's every clip? Are you
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in your car? And every clip, Is it the album cover?
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Is it you in the studio? I don't know what
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the clips are because if they're low quality or low effort,
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people aren't going to engage in that. You do freestyles,
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I don't know if you're doing freestyle battles on Instagram,
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which is kind of weak. Are you doing them in person?
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You tag other artists? I don't know why you would
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tag other artists if they have nothing to do with
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your song. I mean, are you as a rapper? Are you?
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Are you tagging Kendrick hoping that he's gonna notice it
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and then share to his millions because it doesn't work
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that way. I use hashtags. I would love to know
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what your hashtag game is. Is it the same hashtags
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every time? Is the hashtags relevant to the post? Because
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that actually does make a big difference, because what will
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happen is is, let's say you post a clip of
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you freestyling, which is the other thing. Are you posting
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clips of you freestyling? Are you posting clips of your music?
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Are you posting clips of you playing shows? I don't
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know what the clips are, but anyways, the hashtag thing.
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If you hashtag golden doodles, that's going to get service
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to people who have golden doodles. If it's got nothing
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to do with golden doodles, there's gonna be no engagement.
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The algorithm is not going to keep kicking it out
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to you or kicking it out to them. It's just
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gonna kind of leave it. It just dies on the shelf.
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You go live sometimes, what do you do when you
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go live? Are you like, are you freestyling? Are you
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beefing with people? Are you answering questions? I don't know
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what you're doing when you go live, but that's good.
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The big red flag here is if I had a
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red flag, I would be waving it right now. Is
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you tried to pay one of those promo pages one
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hundred dollars to post your song and it got twelve legs.
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Internet companies who want to promote your song and pay
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and all of this stuff. Here's the thing. Their audience
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is other broke artists, is other starving artists. There's not
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a huge plethora of music fans who want to get
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spammed and harassed multiple times a day with artists They
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have no clue who it is. The fact that you
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got twelve followers from that, considering I know what kind
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of scam those internet promo companies are running. That's pretty good. Now,
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are those twelve real people? Are those twelve bots? Are
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those twelve you know, you know bots from Russia? We
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don't know. Never pay, never pay any of those Internet
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companies to promo your song. I don't care who you are,
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and I don't care how good you think your song is.
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It's it's it's just it's a scam. It's that's what
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it is. It's a scam and one hundred dollars for
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them to promo it. And the way that this scam
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works is for one hundred dollars, they will blast your
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song to their followers. Now their followers could be fake
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as well, by the way, they could have bought followers
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or whatever. But yeah, that wasn't that. That was not
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a smart play right there. Because also, here's the thing is,
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if you start, if you start getting a ton of
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bots following you, or you're following a ton of bots,
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like if you paid for fake accounts, those twelve accounts off,
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those twelve accounts are fake. Let's say, you know, like
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I've seen I've seen people by thousands of followers many
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you post something Instagram, YouTube, wherever you bought these fake
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followers from. It blasted out to your followers first before
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it does the general audience. If you have no followers,
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if your followers are all dead accounts, fake accounts, whatever,
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the algorithm doesn't know that it's gonna blast it out
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to the people who are following you. They notice that
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your followers are not engaging in it, so then they
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the algorithm deems this is a bad post, it's a
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low interest post, and they won't service it beyond. That's
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why you never ever like hire any of these companies
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to do any of the stuff for you. So the
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email continues, I don't know if I'm just wasting money
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or if I just need to keep going. Well, you're
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wasting your money by giving it to promo accounts. You
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absolutely are wasting your money, The email continues. I record
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everything myself in my basement studio good. I mix my
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own stuff too, because I can't really afford to pay
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for a real mix right now. If you have a
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good air for mixing, that's not a problem. Shout out
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to uh my man out in New Hampshire. Jay Whitehead
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guy mixes his own stuff. His beats are fire his
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songs are outstanding, and you will you just remember I
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said Jay White ay, because you don't know about him
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in the months and years to come. But he mixes
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his own stuff and it's great if you have an
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air for it. If you don't have an air for it,
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then you you need to become friends with somebody who does,
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or stop releasing music so much and just pay for
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one person. Just pay for one song to be mixed
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and have would be a really good song. People tell
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me my songs are the email continues, people tell me
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my song sound good for being homemade. But that kind
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of feels like a backhanded compliment. Yeah it is. You
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have every right to feel that way. Songs are good
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for being homemade. I don't like that, okay. So that
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that that line right there, that is from somebody who
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