Jan. 28, 2026
What Actually Makes an Artist Legendary?
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In this episode of the Music Business Newsletter with Matthew Rix, I read an email from a nu-metal band asking a question most artists are afraid to say out loud:
How do you become a legendary band not just another act that had a moment?
They’re not looking to be a throwback.
They’re not chasing nostalgia.
They’re not satisfied with being “pretty good.”
They want longevity, impact, and a legacy especially in a genre many people think already peaked.
In this episode, we talk about:
• What actually separates legendary bands from successful ones
• Why talent alone never creates legacy
• The role of identity, culture, and mythology in heavy music
• How bands stay relevant without chasing trends
• Why some genres never really die — they just evolve
• And what artists misunderstand about longevity
This isn’t about streams or virality.
It’s about building something that lasts beyond cycles and algorithms.
If you’re in a band that wants more than momentary success this episode is for you.
Have a question about the music industry or building a career?
Go to https://MatthewRix.com and include as many details as possible.
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Hey, this is Matthew ricks and today on the Music
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Business newsletter. We got in our email from an artist
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who wants to know how to become a legendary band
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and not just like every other band.
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That fades out after a couple of years.
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But before we get started, if you have a question
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on the music industry that you'd like for me to answer,
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just go to Matthewrigs dot com click submit your question. Listen,
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I don't need you to become a member. I don't
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need you to buy a book. I don't need you
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to book a coaching program. I don't even have any
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of those. All I need you to do is go
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to Matthew Rigs dot com click submit your question, give
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me as many details as possible, and we will answer
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it here on the channel. Now for the email, he says, Hey, Matthew,
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I'm going to sound ambitious. I love ambition, all right,
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he says, maybe even arrogant. Now I don't love arrogance,
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but you know, let's see.
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Where this goes.
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He goes, I'd rather be honest than pretend I'm aiming small.
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I'm in a new metal band.
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Yeah, I know some people think that genre had its
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moment and died in the early two thousands. I believe it.
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It's resurrecting. I would agree. I mean, I don't know if.
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New and e W.
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New metal bands are having an impact, but I know
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the legacy artists are definitely having another moment in the sun.
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And some of those bands were. I mean, I never
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liked corn.
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Limp Biscuit had some cool songs, not really like the
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genre wasn't really my thing. But I mean, who's not
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listening to Rolling by limb Biscuit and ain't and it
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ain't just and just ain't rolling in the car? I mean,
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but it's definitely having a moment right now, and we're
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all waiting for what's coming out first GTA six or
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a new System of the Down album.
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But anyways, I digress. He says.
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We hear it all the time, but the truth is
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that sounds still connects when it's done right, without a doubt.
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It is definitely Here's the thing about here's the thing
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about the new the new metal sound. If it is
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done right. A lot of times it is not done right.
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It is it's a botman. It's you're rocking out to it,
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that is for sure.
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He says.
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Heavy emotional, aggressive, vulnerable. It hits something real for people
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who feel like they don't fit clean categories. Okay, I disagree,
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but I think it's I think it's rap music for
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people who don't like rap music, and I think it's
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metal music for people who don't like metal music. But
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we are allowed to have our different opinions.
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He says.
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We don't want to be a cool throwback band or
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a nostalgic act. Well, you can't be a nostalgic act
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if you weren't around back.
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In the day. But now I don't think you tell
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me how old you are in this email, He says.
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We don't want to be the local band that people
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say is good but forget about a week later. We
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want to be legendary. What artist doesn't want to be legendary,
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you know, like what ours is?
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Like?
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Yeah, I think I'll devote the next twelve years to
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this and then, you know, probably just like give up
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and hope that nobody remembered me.
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He says.
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We want to be the kind of band people talk
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about years later, the kind of band that defines a moment,
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not just survives in it. Okay, good goals, Okay, you
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got to be incredibly smart. You gotta watch your money.
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You got to keep your egos in check to have
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that type of career. Anyways, he says, we've been grinding
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for a few years now, writing, constantly, playing shows, recording
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on our own dime. We are tight live, We've got identity.
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People who see us get it. But that's where the
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questions start because being good clearly isn't enough.
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No, it's not talent. Talent is secondary to your marketing.
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Every band says that they want to be legendary, yes,
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but most of them don't even know what that means
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beyond streams or ticket sales. We're trying to figure out
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what separates bands that lasts from bands that disappear. There's
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a few things, Like I can tell you this. When
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I was an A and R. You'd sign a band
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and you go, they're gonna be They're going to hate
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each other by the end of the first album because
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there would just be way too much ego. You know,
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you got some dude who's listening to his girl. She
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thinks he should go solo, and you're like, he's the
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bass player. You got a guy who wants to write
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songs and they're not good, but he can't take no
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for an answer. You get people who get really bad managers,
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horrible man I can't tell you how many bands I've
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seen careers were destroyed because they got really, really terrible managers.
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People always want a dog on, like don't sign a
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bad deal or whatever. I've seen more careers ruined because
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managers ruined them because they overplay their hand.
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We're trying to figure out what separates bands that last
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from bands that disappear, especially in a genre that people
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think is already over. I don't think everybody thinks that
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new metal is over.
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I mean brand New World Festival in Vegas is massive massive.
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That's not you know, that's not That's not some band
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playing at the county fair like.
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That's a massive festival. So I don't.
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I mean, I think you guys, you keep saying how
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everybody thinks it's over. I don't think that's true. Is
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it mainstream? No, But I don't think a lot of
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rock is mainstream these days. And I think a lot
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of rock you have your back against the wall because
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it's not mainstream. But also most people are trying to
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do the singer solo thing.
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Or the pop thing or the hip hop thing.
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And I think bands right now, if you do it right,
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you can kind of sneak in because there's not a
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lot of competition there, not if you're young, if you're
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in your fifties and you're playing covers, and yeah, it's
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loaded with people.
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He goes. So here's what we're really asking.
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What actually makes a band legendary instead of just as
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successful for.
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A moment type of band.
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What makes a band legendary is you gotta be around,
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like you got to keep putting music out. I think
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you know, you see a band that's been around for
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twenty years and they've had fifty members, and some of
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these bands don't even have an original member anymore. That's
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not a legendary band. That's actually a cover band who's
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getting paid good money to be a cover band. I
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think you take something like Metallica.
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Now.
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Has Metallica made great albums the last fifteen years, No,
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absolutely not. But for the most part, they've stayed consistent
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with who they are. They've had the same band members,
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minor minor drama, and they got a diehard fan base
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who will pay a thousand dollars a ticket. That's a
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legendary band. On the flip side, I think you can
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have some bands who've been around for twenty years and
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they constantly have new members.
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There's constantly drama here. We'll use Jane's addiction.
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They came back on their reunion tour and it got
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canceled halfway through because the lead singer flipped out on
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stage and started attacking his band members. Your legendary, I
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just don't think your band is. I think you're very niche.
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So I think that what you have to do is
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you have to model yourself after a Metallica and Aerosmith.
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I wouldn't even put Limp Biscuit in that legendary category.
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I probably would put Corn in there just because they
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didn't really take a hiatus or anything. But I mean,
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you even go back to like early two thousands of
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rock like bands like Lit.
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One day you woke up and they were a country band.
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Now, like what? And then that bombed and then they
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went back to playing rock. That's not legendary status. Legendary
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is this is who we are. Take it or leave it.
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Fans are gonna love it. And they did like a Metallica,
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like an Aerosmith. And now you can say there and
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say yeah, but their albums have sucked well, yeah, Aerosmith
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has made their last few albums were terrible. Metallica has
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not made a good album in years, decades, but their
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fans still lead it up.
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You know.
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It's like, my favorite band of all time is Rancid.
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Shout out to Rancid. They put a new album out.
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I listened to it as soon as it comes out.
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I go see him a concert. Are they making new fans?
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Probably maybe, But the fans who love Rancid, they love
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the new stuff. They might it might not be out
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and out come the wolves, just like for Metallica, it's
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not black, but you still love it because that's your band.
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And so a legendary band is somebody who just stands
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to test the time. I mean, if if you're doing
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this for twenty five thirty years. Ransom's been around almost
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thirty years. They've had one member change one in thirty years.
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Metallica's had what two. I don't think Aerosmith up until
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the one guy quit just a couple of years ago,
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I don't think they had a change. That's legendary status.
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And they didn't like none of those bands like Deviated.
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You know, they weren't like doing metal or rock or punk,
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and then like next to them they did like you know,
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eedy m. They stayed consistent because kind of a take
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it or leave it. It's a legendary attitude that works
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over time. He says, is it about music first, or
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culture or timing? It's all three. You gotta it's got
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to hit. It's all got to hit at the exact
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same time. Your music's got to connect with people, the
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culture's got to be ready for you.
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And the timing's got to be perfect.
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I mean, I can't tell you how many artists over
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my twenty some odd years in the music industry that
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I was like, if this album would have came out
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five years later, it would have been huge. I've signed
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those bands where I'm like, this is gonna be huge.
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The market wasn't ready for it, and it bombed. And
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then five years later you watch that genre just blow
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up and you're just like, what, Like, I we broke this,
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but nobody cared because it wasn't ready yet. I think
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of all the emo bands that came out in early
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two thousands and it just wasn't their time yet. And
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then in two thousand and eight, mal Emo hit.
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And it was it was huge. Rap had that pretty
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much for about thirteen fourteen years. It's kind of dying
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out now, you know. It's why you don't have rap.
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Wraps Nott hasn't been on the charts in a while.
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Their moments kind of fading. But for the longest time,
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it was like people were scrambling just looking for the
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new hip hop stuff.
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So it is about music.
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I think music does come first because you got to
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love the music you're playing. The culture's got to embrace
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it in the time.
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He's got to be perfect.
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Metallica hit at the perfect time. I think if Metallic
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Metallic would have came out ten years later, it would
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have never done anything because the market had already changed
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to grunge and all that. He said, how important is
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visual identity, mythology and message.
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It's a proven fact that people.
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Like looking at beautiful things. So if your band's made
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up of, you know, a bunch of mutants, you're gonna
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have to try to then become slipped out and wear
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a mask. He says, do legendary bands chase relevance or
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do they create it? They create it? I don't think
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here's the thing. I think every band has the goal
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of we want to do this for fifty that's their goal.
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I don't think they're like making music for fifty years
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down the road people are gonna still listen to it.
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I don't think, and I hate the Beatles. I think
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the Beatles are one of the most overrated bands of
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all time, always have. I don't think they made Sergeant
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they're out of their minds on drugs. But I think
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they did it just because it felt right. So I
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think that I think a trap that a lot of
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